Design Systems Podcast Chris Strahl designsystemspodcast.com Design Systems Podcast interviews industry leaders and product makers to share best practices and explore the areas where design and development come together. 137 episodes 136. Are Design Systems Still for People? A Conversation with Elyse Holladay Design Systems Podcast Jul 22 • 45m 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro Design Systems Podcast Jul 8 • 36m 134 Modernizing a Legend: Catherine Dubut Builds the Future at Ford Pro Design Systems Podcast Jun 13 • 30m 133. Garth Braithwaite on Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum at Adobe Design Systems Podcast May 27 • 59m 132. The Evolution of Digital Production: TJ Pitre Talks Flash, Figma, and the Future of Dynamic Design Design Systems Podcast Apr 29 • 29m 131. DSP Rewind | Rick Rodriguez on Building an Adaptable and Scalable Design system Design Systems Podcast Apr 15 • 31m 130. Jon Warden on How GSK Uses Design Systems to Balance Scale, Flexibility, and Innovation Design Systems Podcast Apr 2 • 41m 129. DSP Mashup | The Future of AI and Digital Production Design Systems Podcast Mar 18 • 48m 128. DSP Rewind | Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence Design Systems Podcast Mar 11 • 42m 127. Building a Unified Design System for Instacart’s Multi-Product Ecosystem: Lessons for Success from Miranda Bouck Design Systems Podcast Feb 4 • 31m 126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy Design Systems Podcast Jan 21 • 26m 125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams Design Systems Podcast Jan 7 • 37m 124. From Ideas to Impact: Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely on Five Years of Design Systems Innovation Design Systems Podcast Dec 10, 2024 • 34m 123. Adoption, Efficiency, and Value: insights from KickstartDS’s Jonas Ulrich and Daniel Ley Design Systems Podcast Nov 26, 2024 • 27m 122. Creating Cohesion from Chaos: The Role of Language and System Design with Ben Callahan Design Systems Podcast Nov 12, 2024 • 44m 121. The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei Design Systems Podcast Oct 29, 2024 • 32m 120. From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey Design Systems Podcast Oct 15, 2024 • 33m 119. Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler Design Systems Podcast Oct 1, 2024 • 32m 118. Reusability, Collaboration, and Empathy: Catalina Manea on Bridging Design and Development to Build Applications with Design Systems“ Design Systems Podcast Sep 17, 2024 • 25m 117. Why Kate Moran Thinks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI. Design Systems Podcast Sep 3, 2024 • 42m 116. Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use. Design Systems Podcast Aug 20, 2024 • 30m 115. Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster Design Systems Podcast Aug 6, 2024 • 29m 114. Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI Design Systems Podcast Jul 9, 2024 • 35m 113. Config 2024: Highlights and Hot Takes with Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye Design Systems Podcast Jun 28, 2024 • 21m 112. Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey Design Systems Podcast Jun 27, 2024 • 28m 111. How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja Design Systems Podcast Jun 12, 2024 • 41m 110. The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier Design Systems Podcast May 28, 2024 • 32m 109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede Design Systems Podcast May 14, 2024 • 26m 108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems Design Systems Podcast Apr 30, 2024 • 31m 107. The Evolution of IBM's Carbon Design System with Scott Strubberg Design Systems Podcast Apr 16, 2024 • 34m 106. Brad Frost on Adaptable Design Systems Design Systems Podcast Apr 2, 2024 • 47m 105. Ranjeet Tayi from Informatica: AI-Driven Design Design Systems Podcast Mar 19, 2024 • 39m 104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design Design Systems Podcast Mar 12, 2024 • 46m 103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations Design Systems Podcast Mar 7, 2024 • 34m 102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights Design Systems Podcast Feb 29, 2024 • 29m 101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm Design Systems Podcast Feb 20, 2024 • 38m 100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard Design Systems Podcast Feb 13, 2024 • 29m 99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems Design Systems Podcast Feb 7, 2024 • 29m 98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones Design Systems Podcast Jan 30, 2024 • 28m 97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale Design Systems Podcast Jan 23, 2024 • 36m 96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems Design Systems Podcast Jan 16, 2024 • 44m 95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems Design Systems Podcast Jan 2, 2024 • 25m 94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations Design Systems Podcast Dec 19, 2023 • 41m 93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design Design Systems Podcast Dec 13, 2023 • 38m 92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences Design Systems Podcast Nov 30, 2023 • 27m 91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting Design Systems Podcast Nov 16, 2023 • 31m 90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price Design Systems Podcast Nov 9, 2023 • 33m 89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI Design Systems Podcast Nov 1, 2023 • 29m 88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark Design Systems Podcast Oct 26, 2023 • 27m 87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance Design Systems Podcast Oct 18, 2023 • 34m 86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI Design Systems Podcast Oct 4, 2023 • 34m 85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue Design Systems Podcast Sep 27, 2023 • 29m 84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy Design Systems Podcast Sep 21, 2023 • 39m 83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech Design Systems Podcast Sep 13, 2023 • 34m 82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen Design Systems Podcast Sep 6, 2023 • 31m 81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems Design Systems Podcast Aug 30, 2023 • 37m 80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco Design Systems Podcast Aug 22, 2023 • 38m 79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach Design Systems Podcast Aug 15, 2023 • 42m 78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian Design Systems Podcast Aug 8, 2023 • 28m 77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems Design Systems Podcast Jul 31, 2023 • 44m 76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities Design Systems Podcast Jul 24, 2023 • 35m 75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team Design Systems Podcast Jul 12, 2023 • 36m 74. Richard Banfield, Advisor & Recovering CEO: What does iterative work look like in design systems? Design Systems Podcast Jun 22, 2023 • 41m 73. Sheryl Cababa Chief Strategy Officer at Substantial: Using system thinking to make informed decisions Design Systems Podcast Jun 15, 2023 • 35m 72. Danielle MacDonald Creative Head, Digital Product Design: Designing to scale Design Systems Podcast May 31, 2023 • 36m 71. Chris Deluca Senior Front-End Developer: People are the heart of design systems Design Systems Podcast May 23, 2023 • 38m 70. Pinata's Kendall Totten interviews Knapsack CEO Chris Strahl: Design with code and AI Design Systems Podcast May 16, 2023 • 58m 69. The single source of truth mentality: Meta Part Two Design Systems Podcast May 9, 2023 • 20m 68. Driving Consistency Across Systems with Meta Part One Design Systems Podcast May 2, 2023 • 17m 67. Design Token Takes Part Two: Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent and Darren Simons Design Systems Podcast Apr 23, 2023 • 31m 66. Design Token Takes Part One: Amber Stickel and Taylor Cashdan Design Systems Podcast Apr 17, 2023 • 38m 65. Morgane Peng Managing Director & Head of Design at Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking: Is a design system a business asset or a technical asset? Design Systems Podcast Mar 13, 2023 • 34m 64. Evan Lovely CTO & Co-Founder of Knapsack: Source of truth should be the user experience Design Systems Podcast Mar 6, 2023 • 38m 63. Jennie Yip Principal Design Architect from Atlassian Design System: Building design systems, following the path of least resistance Design Systems Podcast Feb 28, 2023 • 30m 62. Avery Oldt Head of Design and Research from Amazon: Scaling ideas to systems Design Systems Podcast Feb 19, 2023 • 40m 61. Jack McCloy Engineering Manager from Amplitude: The Purpose of Design Systems Design Systems Podcast Feb 15, 2023 • 33m 60. Adekunle Oduye from Plaid: Systems and solving problems for its users Design Systems Podcast Feb 7, 2023 • 33m 59. Jennifer D’Amato, Senior UI/UX Designer and Donnie D’Amato, Senior Engineer: Design systems reflect those who use, maintain and are a part of it Design Systems Podcast Jan 30, 2023 • 25m 58. Michael Jeter, Creative Director from Zapier: Systems have always been a part of solving design problems Design Systems Podcast Jan 18, 2023 • 42m 57. Francesco Cutolo from Klarna: Start from scratch, or build on existing design systems, which is more viable? Design Systems Podcast Jan 9, 2023 • 30m 56. Smith Schwartz, Product Design Manager & Tyce Clee, Engineering Manager at Spotify discuss their design system, Encore Design Systems Podcast Dec 20, 2022 • 41m 55. Todd Wilkens from Remote: The experience is the product Design Systems Podcast Dec 7, 2022 • 41m 54. Nick Hahn founder of Creative Liberation: Design systems are going to reduce the need for early career designers by 75% Design Systems Podcast Nov 22, 2022 • 32m 53. Dana Lawson from Netlify: Bridging the gap between engineers and designers Design Systems Podcast Nov 15, 2022 • 34m 52. Kathryn Gonzalez from DoorDash: Localize your design system Design Systems Podcast Oct 27, 2022 • 23m 51. Evan Lovely, Chris Bloom, Jake Love, and Brittany Smart from Knapsack: Hot Takes on the State of Design Systems Design Systems Podcast Sep 21, 2022 • 33m 50. Stephen Gates: What makes a good design leader? Design Systems Podcast Sep 6, 2022 • 37m 49. Vojtech Miksu from Uber: Next-gen tooling for developers Design Systems Podcast Aug 1, 2022 • 36m 48. Meghan Rosatelli and Saejin Choi from Capital One: Navigating design system convergence, adoption, and contribution simultaneously Design Systems Podcast Jun 6, 2022 • 41m 47. Nick Dorman and Ellis Capon from News UK: Bridging old and new media with News UK’s design system, NewsKit Design Systems Podcast May 16, 2022 • 35m 46. Davy Fung from Disney+/Hulu: Spicy takes on design system nuances Design Systems Podcast May 2, 2022 • 31m 45. Una Kravets from Google Chrome and Chris Bloom from Knapsack: The internet’s dirty secret Design Systems Podcast Apr 18, 2022 • 49m 44. Corey Greeneltch from Compass: Why design systems should be part of your company’s DNA Design Systems Podcast Apr 4, 2022 • 33m Special announcement: Patterns, the design systems conference for leaders Design Systems Podcast Mar 31, 2022 • 10m 43. Matt May and Veda Rosier from Adobe: Building an accessible, inclusive design system Design Systems Podcast Mar 21, 2022 • 41m 42. Neva Corbo-Hudak and Rogin Farrer from Wayfair: The long evolution of a web design system Design Systems Podcast Mar 14, 2022 • 47m 41. Mike Bowser from Vista: The past, present, and future of design systems Design Systems Podcast Feb 8, 2022 • 27m 40. Zach Hendershot and Aaron Stone from Crux Digital: How agencies solve difficult technical problems for Fortune 1000 clients Design Systems Podcast Nov 29, 2021 • 47m 39. Stephen Gates from WW: Culture, design methodology, and design system ROI Design Systems Podcast Nov 15, 2021 • 1h 1m 38. Gina Calcaterra Bhawalkar from Forrester: Lorem ipsum won’t help your design system Design Systems Podcast Nov 2, 2021 • 39m 37. Josh Cusick from Microsoft: Imagining design system utopia Design Systems Podcast Oct 29, 2021 • 23m 36. Deep Dive: Design System ROI with Robin Cannon from IBM iX and Danny Phillips from Procore Design Systems Podcast Sep 21, 2021 • 1h 12m 35. Leonardo De La Rocha from Intuit: Using one design system to manage dozens of products Design Systems Podcast Jul 2, 2021 • 25m 34. Audrey Tan from Xero: Creating a long-lasting design system vision Design Systems Podcast Jun 21, 2021 • 31m 33. Jess Clark from LinkedIn: Old tech, new tech Design Systems Podcast Jun 7, 2021 • 44m 32. Deep dive on tokens with Adam Argyle from Google: How do you codify composition? Design Systems Podcast May 17, 2021 • 2h 1m 31. Maya Hampton from REI: Pattern-based thinking on all levels Design Systems Podcast May 3, 2021 • 44m 30. Jehad Affoneh from Splunk and Scott Mathis from VMware: Schrodinger's tokens, open-source, and components Design Systems Podcast Apr 12, 2021 • 41m 29. Dave Calleja from Isobar: How agencies build design systems Design Systems Podcast Mar 29, 2021 • 37m 28. Matthew Ström from SimpleHealth: Using design tokens to standardize deliverables Design Systems Podcast Mar 15, 2021 • 36m 27. Jennie Yip from Atlassian: Storytelling to drive design system success Design Systems Podcast Feb 2, 2021 • 36m 26. Avery Oldt from Blermph: Embracing intentionality and creating trust Design Systems Podcast Jan 19, 2021 • 43m 25. Eric Lobdell from Facebook: Anticipating deviation to drive adoption and contribution Design Systems Podcast Jan 5, 2021 • 36m 24. Nick Cochran from ExxonMobil: How to make doing the right thing the easy thing Design Systems Podcast Dec 15, 2020 • 38m 23. Vidya Nayak from SoFi: Leading design systems across teams Design Systems Podcast Nov 25, 2020 • 31m 22. Demian Borba from Adobe: Understanding and harnessing the power of design tokens Design Systems Podcast Nov 3, 2020 • 38m 21. Jina Anne from Clarity: A design system origin story Design Systems Podcast Oct 21, 2020 • 42m 20. Rick Rodriguez from Walmart Labs: Creating design systems that scale Design Systems Podcast Sep 29, 2020 • 41m 19. Morgane Peng from Societe Generale: The right level of complexity for the right people Design Systems Podcast Sep 1, 2020 • 38m 18. Jason Lengstorf from Netlify: Failure, finding your way, and helping others adopt a new way of working Design Systems Podcast Aug 19, 2020 • 43m 17. Varun Vachar from Rangle: The design graph and computational design Design Systems Podcast Aug 6, 2020 • 28m 16. Adam Argyle from Google: Making your design system freeing vs. constraining Design Systems Podcast Jul 8, 2020 • 57m 15. Stephen Gates: What are you doing about the people and trust aspects of your design system? Design Systems Podcast Jun 23, 2020 • 35m 14. Mina Markham: Building shared culture and better collaboration between designers and developers Design Systems Podcast Jun 11, 2020 • 33m 13. Micah Godbolt: Design and code meeting in the middle with Fluent UI at Microsoft Design Systems Podcast May 20, 2020 • 30m 12. Ethan Marcotte: Design systems and the evolution of how we work Design Systems Podcast May 11, 2020 • 34m 11. Brad Frost and Evan Lovely: Code is the source of truth Design Systems Podcast Apr 20, 2020 • 44m 10. Jeremy Keith: Overcoming entropy and turning chaos into order Design Systems Podcast Apr 2, 2020 • 46m 9. Charles Hall: Accessibility is good for your products and great for your business Design Systems Podcast Mar 25, 2020 • 36m 8. Salem Ghoweri: Bolt Design System and front-end architects Design Systems Podcast Mar 5, 2020 • 34m 7. Skip Newberry: Technology and design in government Design Systems Podcast Feb 21, 2020 • 31m 6. Marco Suárez: Buying into design systems Design Systems Podcast Feb 6, 2020 • 37m 5. Tatiana Mac: Design and inclusivity Design Systems Podcast Jan 17, 2020 • 33m 4. Dan Mall: How do design systems work in enterprise organizations? Design Systems Podcast Jan 2, 2020 • 37m 3. Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence Design Systems Podcast Dec 18, 2019 • 37m 2. Nam Ho: Design systems and project management Design Systems Podcast Dec 17, 2019 • 25m 1. Evan Lovely: What are design systems? Design Systems Podcast Dec 9, 2019 • 24m